Sure! I mean No! Does it really matter. Kids should be happy being themselves after all they’re kids. The important thing is to have the support and help of their family and friends, if they have that they can do what ever they want even grow, change and better themselves. And if they don’t know what they should to in time it will come to them, they’ll learn with mistakes and positive feedback.
If my administration wanted me to make a bigger impact they would let me wear a t-shirt, shorts, no shoes, no socks…and yes, my t-shirt would be untucked. Instead I have to dress up in clothes I hate and bake in the third floor oven.
FEAR!!! BE AFRAID! Kids might hide a rocket launcher in their pants if we don’t make them tuck in their shirts!
Whatever. What’s in their backpacks? What could they hide in their D-Ring binders? Hollowed-out textbooks? Winter coats? Under baseball hats?
This is reactionary fearmongering at its worst. They made the policy with the best of intentions, but it doesn’t actually make anything safer. It’s like taking shoes off before getting on a plane. Hypothetically, there is an imaginary scenario where that might possibly make things slightly safer. But where does it end?
And, what about the person that just walks in toting guns in-hand, ala Dawson College? If I remember correctly, his shirt was properly tucked in, though…
sophie
The whole dress code policy is like opening a can of worms. We need to concentrate more on whether we are raising happy well adjusted kids than how they look. More resourses on identifying marginal kids and getting them help than rules and codes of conduct.
I am in jeans right now and I am happy, comfortable and teaching well. You don’t need to be in a dress or a suit and tie to teach well…….I guess that means you don’t need to tuck your shirt in to be a happy, comfortable and engaged learner.
The youtube video didn’t come though the first time I was on your post and that’s why I added it back. Funny – that was what I was thinking when I saw your title. Perhaps a good example of a viral video rather than practical advice.
In any case you have to think about where you are and the context of the situation and not just blanket a policy. IMHO – There are times when an untucked shirt is fine, there are other times when the situation calls for something different.
Are they serious? The scary thing is that they seem to seriously believe what they’re saying here.
Being a teacher in a Catholic school in Australia, I’m used to school uniforms and rules about how to wear them. Our schools have many reasons for having them – but never has this reason ever come up. If your school wants to have a uniform… fine, let it have one. Let’s be honest, however, about why we want it. If scare tactics like this are the only way of getting parents to accept a dress code, then clearly a school uniform is not a priority for your school community, and you shouldn’t waste time on it.
After watching the video, I was left wondering about the dilemma that this school would think the newest school in our Diocese has. From the pictures on the front of their website, you can see they have a uniform, but the shirts are not designed to tuck in. It’s enough to send any terrified parent or school administrator into a spin! 🙂
Frankly, I’m surprised the video says nothing about the potential of concealing mobile phones and iPods!
instead of a dress code, just make the kids do 10 jumping jacks before entering the school. the uzi likely would have fallen out of his pants, or rattled against the shotgun enough to notify people he was packing heat. This kid would have been walking so oddly and slowly that he could have been easily subdued…
Sheesh, haven’t they ever watched James Bond. Here you have a perfectly dressed man – with his shirt tucked in – who is armed to the teeth.
Having a dress code is about indoctrination. It is about making everyone the same. It is about teaching people to fear that which is different. It is classic group behaviour – which is why it is dangerous and unthinking.
1) The untucked shirt is the distraction like in a good magic trick. It makes you look somewhere else. We shouldn’t be looking at the shirt, we should be watching the person wearing the shirt, and knowing who they are and what they believe in.
2)Even if the kid DID have his shirt tucked in…I don’t think he could have walked very far with all those weapons in his pants! And how hard would it really be to untuck the shirt to pull out a gun?
This has got to be a joke! Right? What I found scary was how comfortable that kid looked holding those weapons! Now we are talking about kids! Kids shouldn’t even be thinking about guns! What is going on? I loved the comment about ipods and cell phones. Let us remember, guns don’t kill people … they just make it uncomfortable for you to walk when they are crammed down your pants 🙂
It makes me wonder when any learning and teaching will ever get done in some of these schools where students are regarded with such suspicion. If you see the class in front of you as potential dangers how can you concentrate on their learning needs?
Monique
The video reminded me of the 50’s-60’s public service clips of what to do when people hear the “attack” sirens. If someone wants to hide a weapon, they will. What is next? Big purses (I could probably have a couple of guns and a hand grenade in mine today), dresses and skirts, dress coats, backpacks and even lunch bags could be the next targets! Maybe we should all go around in our swimsuits… yuck, that would not be a pretty site!
Some of the things you people are saying is completely absurd! If eveb one of you had reach a conclusion that was logically valid I may have reconsidered that statement. Aren’t there more important issues to nag the school system about? If you think it robs children of their individuality, look at private schools where kids have to where uniforms and SCHOOLS ARE SAFER! If you think comfort is an issue then read a physiology book or look up the word ‘desensitization’ you will then find that touch is a sense that slowly goes away. Put a penny on your hand and leave it there for a while. You will stop feeling it. If you think its to teach children conformity, then think about the child whose mother made him tuck his shirt in every day any way. I am a mother and I want the best for my child. As an adult I understand that work is not always comfortable or exactly how you want it to be!
tom112
I go secondary school and at first i wasn’t keen on the idea of my shirt being tucked in i felt a bit of a geek when a teacher made me do it . but now im starting my second year in big school and ivee come to realise kids only un tuck their shirts to rebel and for no other reason i now usually tuck my shirt in and wear my trousers high rather than baggy without caring anbout the “nerd” “geek” comments. Tbh i find its better looking when shirts are tucked in.
Sure! I mean No! Does it really matter. Kids should be happy being themselves after all they’re kids. The important thing is to have the support and help of their family and friends, if they have that they can do what ever they want even grow, change and better themselves. And if they don’t know what they should to in time it will come to them, they’ll learn with mistakes and positive feedback.
Depends on where you live.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kG7usghyn4I
If my administration wanted me to make a bigger impact they would let me wear a t-shirt, shorts, no shoes, no socks…and yes, my t-shirt would be untucked. Instead I have to dress up in clothes I hate and bake in the third floor oven.
FEAR!!! BE AFRAID! Kids might hide a rocket launcher in their pants if we don’t make them tuck in their shirts!
Whatever. What’s in their backpacks? What could they hide in their D-Ring binders? Hollowed-out textbooks? Winter coats? Under baseball hats?
This is reactionary fearmongering at its worst. They made the policy with the best of intentions, but it doesn’t actually make anything safer. It’s like taking shoes off before getting on a plane. Hypothetically, there is an imaginary scenario where that might possibly make things slightly safer. But where does it end?
And, what about the person that just walks in toting guns in-hand, ala Dawson College? If I remember correctly, his shirt was properly tucked in, though…
The whole dress code policy is like opening a can of worms. We need to concentrate more on whether we are raising happy well adjusted kids than how they look. More resourses on identifying marginal kids and getting them help than rules and codes of conduct.
I am in jeans right now and I am happy, comfortable and teaching well. You don’t need to be in a dress or a suit and tie to teach well…….I guess that means you don’t need to tuck your shirt in to be a happy, comfortable and engaged learner.
The youtube video didn’t come though the first time I was on your post and that’s why I added it back. Funny – that was what I was thinking when I saw your title. Perhaps a good example of a viral video rather than practical advice.
In any case you have to think about where you are and the context of the situation and not just blanket a policy. IMHO – There are times when an untucked shirt is fine, there are other times when the situation calls for something different.
Are they serious? The scary thing is that they seem to seriously believe what they’re saying here.
Being a teacher in a Catholic school in Australia, I’m used to school uniforms and rules about how to wear them. Our schools have many reasons for having them – but never has this reason ever come up. If your school wants to have a uniform… fine, let it have one. Let’s be honest, however, about why we want it. If scare tactics like this are the only way of getting parents to accept a dress code, then clearly a school uniform is not a priority for your school community, and you shouldn’t waste time on it.
After watching the video, I was left wondering about the dilemma that this school would think the newest school in our Diocese has. From the pictures on the front of their website, you can see they have a uniform, but the shirts are not designed to tuck in. It’s enough to send any terrified parent or school administrator into a spin! 🙂
Frankly, I’m surprised the video says nothing about the potential of concealing mobile phones and iPods!
instead of a dress code, just make the kids do 10 jumping jacks before entering the school. the uzi likely would have fallen out of his pants, or rattled against the shotgun enough to notify people he was packing heat. This kid would have been walking so oddly and slowly that he could have been easily subdued…
Sheesh, haven’t they ever watched James Bond. Here you have a perfectly dressed man – with his shirt tucked in – who is armed to the teeth.
Having a dress code is about indoctrination. It is about making everyone the same. It is about teaching people to fear that which is different. It is classic group behaviour – which is why it is dangerous and unthinking.
I have two comments:
1) The untucked shirt is the distraction like in a good magic trick. It makes you look somewhere else. We shouldn’t be looking at the shirt, we should be watching the person wearing the shirt, and knowing who they are and what they believe in.
2)Even if the kid DID have his shirt tucked in…I don’t think he could have walked very far with all those weapons in his pants! And how hard would it really be to untuck the shirt to pull out a gun?
This has got to be a joke! Right? What I found scary was how comfortable that kid looked holding those weapons! Now we are talking about kids! Kids shouldn’t even be thinking about guns! What is going on? I loved the comment about ipods and cell phones. Let us remember, guns don’t kill people … they just make it uncomfortable for you to walk when they are crammed down your pants 🙂
It makes me wonder when any learning and teaching will ever get done in some of these schools where students are regarded with such suspicion. If you see the class in front of you as potential dangers how can you concentrate on their learning needs?
The video reminded me of the 50’s-60’s public service clips of what to do when people hear the “attack” sirens. If someone wants to hide a weapon, they will. What is next? Big purses (I could probably have a couple of guns and a hand grenade in mine today), dresses and skirts, dress coats, backpacks and even lunch bags could be the next targets! Maybe we should all go around in our swimsuits… yuck, that would not be a pretty site!
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Some of the things you people are saying is completely absurd! If eveb one of you had reach a conclusion that was logically valid I may have reconsidered that statement. Aren’t there more important issues to nag the school system about? If you think it robs children of their individuality, look at private schools where kids have to where uniforms and SCHOOLS ARE SAFER! If you think comfort is an issue then read a physiology book or look up the word ‘desensitization’ you will then find that touch is a sense that slowly goes away. Put a penny on your hand and leave it there for a while. You will stop feeling it. If you think its to teach children conformity, then think about the child whose mother made him tuck his shirt in every day any way. I am a mother and I want the best for my child. As an adult I understand that work is not always comfortable or exactly how you want it to be!
I go secondary school and at first i wasn’t keen on the idea of my shirt being tucked in i felt a bit of a geek when a teacher made me do it . but now im starting my second year in big school and ivee come to realise kids only un tuck their shirts to rebel and for no other reason i now usually tuck my shirt in and wear my trousers high rather than baggy without caring anbout the “nerd” “geek” comments. Tbh i find its better looking when shirts are tucked in.