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		<title>EdTech Posse Podcast 6.1 – No tech after 5 p.m.</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 21:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dean Shareski</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<img align="left" hspace="5" width="150" height="150" src="http://ideasandthoughts.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/4269884817_6f4723c29b-150x150.jpg" class="alignleft wp-post-image tfe" alt="In the Air Tonight" title="" />&#160; We&#8217;re back with our first podcast of 2010 EdTech Posse Podcast 6.1 &#8211; No tech after 5 p.m. Mike Wesch presented at the University of Saskatchewan and University of Regina earlier this week. We discussed his presentations and reflected&#160;on some of the changes that might result from educators becoming aware of his work/message. &#160; [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/shareski/4269884817/" title="In the Air Tonight by shareski, on Flickr"><img align="left" alt="In the Air Tonight" height="263" hspace="5" src="http://ideasandthoughts.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/4269884817_6f4723c29b.jpg" width="350" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; line-height: 18px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande', 'Lucida Sans Unicode', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; ">We&rsquo;re back with our first podcast of 2010<br />
	<a href="http://media.libsyn.com/media/edtechposse/etp_6.1.mp3" style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; color: rgb(0, 68, 119); text-decoration: underline; ">EdTech Posse Podcast 6.1 &ndash; No tech after 5 p.m.</a></span></p>
<p style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; line-height: 18px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande', 'Lucida Sans Unicode', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; ">Mike Wesch presented at the University of Saskatchewan and University of Regina earlier this week. We discussed his presentations and reflected&nbsp;on some of the changes that might result from educators becoming aware of his work/message.</span></p>
<p style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; line-height: 18px; ">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; line-height: 18px; ">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; line-height: 18px; ">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; line-height: 18px; ">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; line-height: 18px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande', 'Lucida Sans Unicode', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; ">Some notes:</span></p>
<ul style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 30px; line-height: 18px; ">
<li style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 5px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande', 'Lucida Sans Unicode', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "><a href="http://rickscafe.wordpress.com/2010/01/11/podcast-conversation-with-mike-wesch/" style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; color: rgb(0, 68, 119); text-decoration: underline; ">Rick&rsquo;s conversation/video podcast with Mike Wesch</a></span></li>
<li style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 5px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande', 'Lucida Sans Unicode', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; ">Mike Wesch&rsquo;s presentation at the University of Regina:&nbsp;<a href="http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/3929554" style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; color: rgb(0, 68, 119); text-decoration: underline; ">The (Digital) Writing on the Walls (and why the walls don&rsquo;t matter anymore</a>&nbsp;(Ustream recording)</span></li>
<li style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 5px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande', 'Lucida Sans Unicode', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "><a href="http://mediatedcultures.net/ksudigg/" style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; color: rgb(0, 68, 119); text-decoration: underline; ">Digital Ethnography</a>&nbsp;research group site</span></li>
<li style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 5px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande', 'Lucida Sans Unicode', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "><a href="http://twitter.com/mwesch" style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; color: rgb(0, 68, 119); text-decoration: underline; ">Mike Wesch on twitter</a></span></li>
<li style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 5px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande', 'Lucida Sans Unicode', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Haiti_earthquake" style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; color: rgb(0, 68, 119); text-decoration: underline; ">2010 Haiti Earthquake</a>&nbsp;(<em style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">If you are in Canada and interested in donating, the CBC has compiled a&nbsp;<a href="http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2010/01/13/f-emergency-contacts-haiti-relief-aid.html" style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; color: rgb(0, 68, 119); text-decoration: underline; ">list of organizations that are providing relief</a>. The federal government will match donations made by individuals between now and Feb. 12, 2010</em>)</span></li>
<li style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 5px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande', 'Lucida Sans Unicode', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "><a href="http://www.lexwarelabs.com/sleepcycle/index.html" style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; color: rgb(0, 68, 119); text-decoration: underline; ">The Sleep Cycle Alarm Clock iPhone app</a>&nbsp;&ndash; as endorsed by Dean</span></li>
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<p style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; line-height: 18px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande', 'Lucida Sans Unicode', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; ">Prognostications for 2010:</span></p>
<ul style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 30px; line-height: 18px; ">
<li style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 5px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande', 'Lucida Sans Unicode', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; ">Rick &ndash; reinvestment of classroom video capture (we&rsquo;re not in favour of this due to it&rsquo;s reinforcement of traditional classroom models)</span></li>
<li style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 5px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande', 'Lucida Sans Unicode', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; ">Dean &ndash; advocacy/adoption of interactive whiteboards in classrooms (we have some of the same concerns about this as above)</span></li>
<li style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 5px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande', 'Lucida Sans Unicode', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; ">Rob &ndash; mobile technology (netbooks, the mythological Apple Tablet)</span></li>
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<p style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; line-height: 18px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande', 'Lucida Sans Unicode', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; ">Promote/plug (things we think you might be interested in):</span></p>
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<li style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 5px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande', 'Lucida Sans Unicode', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "><a href="http://saasc.wordpress.com/" style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; color: rgb(0, 68, 119); text-decoration: underline; ">Coyote Chalk blog</a>&nbsp;written by Cori Saas, a former student of Dean&rsquo;s</span></li>
<li style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 5px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande', 'Lucida Sans Unicode', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "><a href="http://www.usask.ca/education/" style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; color: rgb(0, 68, 119); text-decoration: underline; ">The College of Education at the University of Saskatchewan</a>. Rick says that great things are happening there.</span></li>
<li style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 5px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande', 'Lucida Sans Unicode', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; ">&ldquo;<a href="http://www.amazon.ca/Shop-Class-Soulcraft-Matthew-Crawford/dp/0143117467/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books&#038;qid=1263581675&#038;sr=8-2" style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; color: rgb(0, 68, 119); text-decoration: underline; ">Shop Class as Soul Craft</a>&rdquo; by&nbsp;<a href="http://www.matthewbcrawford.com/" style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; color: rgb(0, 68, 119); text-decoration: underline; ">Matthew Crawford</a>&nbsp;is next on Rob&rsquo;s reading list for books to read on his iPod touch using the&nbsp;<a href="http://www.kobobooks.com/" style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; color: rgb(0, 68, 119); text-decoration: underline; ">Kobobooks</a>&nbsp;app (terrific ebook seller). Matthew was recently heard on&nbsp;<a href="http://www.cbc.ca/spark/2010/01/spark-97-january-3-5-2010/" style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; color: rgb(0, 68, 119); text-decoration: underline; ">episode 97 of the CBC Radio program Spark</a>.</span></li>
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<p style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; line-height: 18px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande', 'Lucida Sans Unicode', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; ">Finally, Rob wants to thank&nbsp;<a href="http://whatisyouritvision.blogspot.com/" style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; color: rgb(204, 0, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">Paul Wood</a>&nbsp;for saying hi to his kids via Skype, and&nbsp;<a href="http://cogdogblog.com/" style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; color: rgb(0, 68, 119); text-decoration: underline; ">Alan Levine&nbsp;</a>for being The Boy&trade;&rsquo;s first twitter buddy.</span></p>
<p style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; line-height: 18px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande', 'Lucida Sans Unicode', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; ">Thanks to Rob for recording, editing and supplying the show notes:</span></p>
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		<title>Two blog posts in one</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 06:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dean Shareski</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Part 1</strong><br />
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<p>If you&#8217;ve ever heard the first statement in a staffroom, the rest of the logic would follow.  Learning is what makes us human and to use this logic would suggest that schools can be inhumane institutions.</p>
<p>This is some of the thinking of <a href="http://mediatedcultures.net/">Dr. Michael Wesch</a>.  In the first 20 minutes or so of <a href="http://umanitoba.ca/ist/production/streaming/podcast_wesch.html">this presentation</a> from his talk at the University of Manitoba, he makes such a clear case for the shift in learning due to a changing media. I love the fact that there are <a href="http://blog.mrmeyer.com">so many</a> <a href="http://www.practicaltheory.org/serendipity/">great conversations</a> and folks dedicated to solid pedagogy which is not new. What&#8217;s new is the way new media is influences this. Wesch is the maker of <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gmP4nk0EOE">The Machine is Using Us</a> which demonstrates this shift.  The way we experience information and content is new and I&#8217;ve yet to hear a good argument to suggest it&#8217;s no big deal, let&#8217;s do school as usual.</p>
<p>I really want to get good and keeping both solid pedagogy and how it fits with new media in balance. What&#8217;s interesting is that the new media is leading people to push the edge of the envelope of innovation and get criticized because they appear to be tool focused. That&#8217;s why I love how <a href="http://weblogg-ed.com">Will</a> setup the discussion today about <a href="http://center.uoregon.edu/ISTE/NECC2008/program/search_results_details.php?sessionid=42065401&#038;selection_id=42815765&#038;rownumber=4&#038;max=26&#038;gopage=">streaming video</a>. He prefaced it by admitting, we don&#8217;t have the pedagogy all worked out. But it&#8217;s still worth exploring and the conversations usually include a good dose of &#8220;yeah but does it help kids learn?&#8221; mixed with &#8220;wouldn&#8217;t it be interesting if we tried&#8230;?&#8221;  At times we need to play, explore and waste time.  Cheap failures allow us to see what works and what doesn&#8217;t.  Other times, let&#8217;s call it fluff when we see it and move on.</p>
<p><strong>Part 2</strong></p>
<p>So why when I fly 2600 miles to the <a href="http://center.uoregon.edu/ISTE/NECC2008/">world&#8217;s largest edtech conference</a> would I sit in my hotel room, watch an online video when there is a convention center filled with people, stuff and conversations?  <a href="http://edu.blogs.com/edublogs/2008/06/not-coping-with.html">This</a> helps explain part of it.  But also learning comes in many forms. Duh. People have asked me if I&#8217;m learning. I hate having to quantify my learning experience.  I like demonstrating understanding.</p>
<p>I love sitting quietly by myself listening, watching, reading and reflecting. I love being with a group of loud friends laughing, listening and arguing. I&#8217;m not sure I came to NECC to learn anymore than I could have had I stayed home.  By far the majority of people here need to be here to learn. That might sound arrogant but I can learn from anyone, anytime and anywhere. &#8220;Even from here&#8221; to quote my good friend<a href="http://remoteaccess.typepad.com/"> Clarence</a>. I would be great if more people could develop this type of learning network and they are. The growth of <a href="http://www.edubloggercon.com/San+Antonio+2008+Agenda">edubloggercon</a> and the blogger&#8217;s cafe would indicate this is happening.  It&#8217;s not going to deter from conference attendance because these types of meetups are precious. Spending as much time online with these folks as I do, builds relationships. Not everyone is my &#8220;friend&#8221; but they are part of my virtual classroom and I like hanging out. I don&#8217;t need to be here to learn.</p>
<p>So I&#8217;m not here to learn anymore than I would normally. I&#8221;m here to be together. That&#8217;s good enough.</p>
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