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		<title>By: Blais</title>
		<link>http://ideasandthoughts.org/2009/10/26/follow-up-to-a-rant/comment-page-1/#comment-33179</link>
		<dc:creator>Blais</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 20:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our current school leadership system does pose a lot of issues just as you stated.&#160; School leaders and politicians are not the ones in the classroom interacting with our students.&#160; They don&#039;t have to implement new policies but they are held accountable for them.&#160; Do we really need principles in our schools anyway?&#160; Sure, they serve the purpose of keeping the whole school on track.&#160; But couldn&#039;t teachers be given that responsibility?&#160; Afterall, they are the ones that know what&#039;s going on in the classroom and what needs to be done.&#160; Teacher driven leadership would be an entirely new system for schools to implement but I think it would be possible.&#160; The possible effect on students could be incredible.&#160; How many teachers have to implement policies in their classroom that they know are detrimental to the students in a particular class?&#160; Just a thought...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our current school leadership system does pose a lot of issues just as you stated.&nbsp; School leaders and politicians are not the ones in the classroom interacting with our students.&nbsp; They don&#39;t have to implement new policies but they are held accountable for them.&nbsp; Do we really need principles in our schools anyway?&nbsp; Sure, they serve the purpose of keeping the whole school on track.&nbsp; But couldn&#39;t teachers be given that responsibility?&nbsp; Afterall, they are the ones that know what&#39;s going on in the classroom and what needs to be done.&nbsp; Teacher driven leadership would be an entirely new system for schools to implement but I think it would be possible.&nbsp; The possible effect on students could be incredible.&nbsp; How many teachers have to implement policies in their classroom that they know are detrimental to the students in a particular class?&nbsp; Just a thought&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Marilyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marilyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for saying what I have been thinking and feeling about our school initiatives. You said it so eloquently.
Presently I feel like I am in a house of cards that is going to tumble. &#160;It&#039;s very scary...I think walking on quicksand would feel the same way.
Ta&#160;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for saying what I have been thinking and feeling about our school initiatives. You said it so eloquently.<br />
Presently I feel like I am in a house of cards that is going to tumble. &nbsp;It&#39;s very scary&#8230;I think walking on quicksand would feel the same way.<br />
Ta&nbsp;</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Ferriter</title>
		<link>http://ideasandthoughts.org/2009/10/26/follow-up-to-a-rant/comment-page-1/#comment-32825</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Ferriter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the hitch here is that the people who are deciding on and then promoting change are not the same as the people who are charged with implementing change---which causes a HUGE disconnect between what&#039;s desired and what&#039;s doable.  

I&#039;ll never forget my favorite principal of all time finding me in the hallways once and saying, &quot;Bill---what we&#039;re asking you to do isn&#039;t hard.  Just do it.&quot;  

Considering that I was already putting in twelve hour days and getting paid next to nothing, I wanted to punch him!

The fact of the matter is that most school leaders live in the world of imagination.  Their job is to dream new directions rather than to do the heavy lifting that change requires----and because they haven&#039;t been responsible for implementation in a long, long while, they&#039;ve forgotten exactly how hard changing practices really is.  

What&#039;s worse is that there&#039;s an impression----perhaps earned by teachers who HAVE grown lazy over time due to tenure-----that any resistance to new plans or programs is automatically resistance to change.  &quot;These teachers are just complaining because they don&#039;t want to be held accountable,&quot; the thinking goes.  &quot;Teachers are the worst audiences.&quot;

In reality, accomplished teachers push back at plans for change that are poorly crafted and show a lack of understanding of the complexity and constraints of our positions.  

I&#039;m not interested in designing systematic remediation and enrichment activities for students because I&#039;ve got less than 50 minutes of independent work time a day and no efficient tools for collecting data.  I&#039;m not motivated to find ways to integrate my work with the special programs department because we don&#039;t share a planning period.  Integrating technology into the classroom is impossible because everything in our system is blocked.  

How do we fix the problem?

Easy:  Require EVERY school leader to consult real live practitioners before making ANY decisions about new directions for schools.  Create teams of teacher-consultants or advisory councils that are pulled together several times each year to gauge the gut reactions of your workforce.  Listen when your best and your brightest tell you that they are exhausted.  

Classroom teachers have the knowledge and the experience necessary to translate policies into practices.  We can help to reframe imagination and to craft realistic plans for implementation.  

All ya gotta do is listen.
Bill
.-= Bill Ferriter&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/the_tempered_radical/~3/hsIa518g9us/part-two-teacher-tips-for-blogging-projects.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Part Two:  Teacher Tips for Blogging Projects&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the hitch here is that the people who are deciding on and then promoting change are not the same as the people who are charged with implementing change&#8212;which causes a HUGE disconnect between what&#8217;s desired and what&#8217;s doable.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll never forget my favorite principal of all time finding me in the hallways once and saying, &#8220;Bill&#8212;what we&#8217;re asking you to do isn&#8217;t hard.  Just do it.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Considering that I was already putting in twelve hour days and getting paid next to nothing, I wanted to punch him!</p>
<p>The fact of the matter is that most school leaders live in the world of imagination.  Their job is to dream new directions rather than to do the heavy lifting that change requires&#8212;-and because they haven&#8217;t been responsible for implementation in a long, long while, they&#8217;ve forgotten exactly how hard changing practices really is.  </p>
<p>What&#8217;s worse is that there&#8217;s an impression&#8212;-perhaps earned by teachers who HAVE grown lazy over time due to tenure&#8212;&#8211;that any resistance to new plans or programs is automatically resistance to change.  &#8220;These teachers are just complaining because they don&#8217;t want to be held accountable,&#8221; the thinking goes.  &#8220;Teachers are the worst audiences.&#8221;</p>
<p>In reality, accomplished teachers push back at plans for change that are poorly crafted and show a lack of understanding of the complexity and constraints of our positions.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not interested in designing systematic remediation and enrichment activities for students because I&#8217;ve got less than 50 minutes of independent work time a day and no efficient tools for collecting data.  I&#8217;m not motivated to find ways to integrate my work with the special programs department because we don&#8217;t share a planning period.  Integrating technology into the classroom is impossible because everything in our system is blocked.  </p>
<p>How do we fix the problem?</p>
<p>Easy:  Require EVERY school leader to consult real live practitioners before making ANY decisions about new directions for schools.  Create teams of teacher-consultants or advisory councils that are pulled together several times each year to gauge the gut reactions of your workforce.  Listen when your best and your brightest tell you that they are exhausted.  </p>
<p>Classroom teachers have the knowledge and the experience necessary to translate policies into practices.  We can help to reframe imagination and to craft realistic plans for implementation.  </p>
<p>All ya gotta do is listen.<br />
Bill<br />
.-= Bill Ferriter&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/the_tempered_radical/~3/hsIa518g9us/part-two-teacher-tips-for-blogging-projects.html" rel="nofollow">Part Two:  Teacher Tips for Blogging Projects</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Wildeboer</title>
		<link>http://ideasandthoughts.org/2009/10/26/follow-up-to-a-rant/comment-page-1/#comment-32777</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Wildeboer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 00:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The challenge (IMHO) is that education &lt;em&gt;really&lt;/em&gt; needs some &quot;deep level change.&quot; Most systemic change is driven by political decision making, which sadly seems more interested in the &lt;em&gt;appearance&lt;/em&gt; of change or progress than actual change. 

Also, as was mentioned, we can&#039;t just stop. It&#039;s hard to make some major changes without taking some time off to plan, prepare, and implement. Perhaps we should take a tip from sustainable farming practices and have a &quot;fallow year&quot; for all schools. A year off for each school community to put together and plan for major systemic changes. While I know that&#039;s a pipe dream, think of what powerful change might flow from a system that supported that type of time for reflection and restructuring.
.-= Ben Wildeboer&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/SustainablyDigital/~3/Qwyjd4cM7w4/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Suggestions for resources: Do you agree?&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The challenge (IMHO) is that education <em>really</em> needs some &#8220;deep level change.&#8221; Most systemic change is driven by political decision making, which sadly seems more interested in the <em>appearance</em> of change or progress than actual change. </p>
<p>Also, as was mentioned, we can&#8217;t just stop. It&#8217;s hard to make some major changes without taking some time off to plan, prepare, and implement. Perhaps we should take a tip from sustainable farming practices and have a &#8220;fallow year&#8221; for all schools. A year off for each school community to put together and plan for major systemic changes. While I know that&#8217;s a pipe dream, think of what powerful change might flow from a system that supported that type of time for reflection and restructuring.<br />
.-= Ben Wildeboer&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/SustainablyDigital/~3/Qwyjd4cM7w4/" rel="nofollow">Suggestions for resources: Do you agree?</a> =-.</p>
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