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		<title>By: Etiket</title>
		<link>http://ideasandthoughts.org/2009/05/19/how-the-book-destroyed-community/comment-page-1/#comment-32745</link>
		<dc:creator>Etiket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 11:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like Dean said, many feel that sitting silently reading a book is much more academic and scholarly than sitting in front of a screen. But is it? Educational technology is advancing at an alarming rate and we, as a society, are trying to digest the changes. While we may not always understand change, like utilizing screens instead of books, we need to try to understand</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like Dean said, many feel that sitting silently reading a book is much more academic and scholarly than sitting in front of a screen. But is it? Educational technology is advancing at an alarming rate and we, as a society, are trying to digest the changes. While we may not always understand change, like utilizing screens instead of books, we need to try to understand</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Allan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Allan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 07:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kia ora Dean.

You said your post was &quot;a conversation starter&quot;.

I think it did that  :-) .

Catchya later

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Ken Allans last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://newmiddle-earth.blogspot.com/2009/05/how-do-you-build-team.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;How Do You Build A Team?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kia ora Dean.</p>
<p>You said your post was &#8220;a conversation starter&#8221;.</p>
<p>I think it did that  <img src='http://ideasandthoughts.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  .</p>
<p>Catchya later</p>
<p><abbr><em>Ken Allans last blog post..<a href="http://newmiddle-earth.blogspot.com/2009/05/how-do-you-build-team.html" rel="nofollow">How Do You Build A Team?</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Chad Galdys</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chad Galdys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 17:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first thing is clear.  We are victims of habit.  Oral tradition used to be way that people were taught.  Memorization was the technology being used.  We then progressed to books--ah! the culprit! which like both Dean and Rory stated was &quot;terrible&quot; and so like Rory stated books, the current advancing technology, were banned.  Now we are progressing to a digital age with computers and live video games and things of the sort--&quot;state-of-the-art&quot; technology.  And again we feel some tension.  Like Dean said, many feel that sitting silently reading a book is much more academic and scholarly than sitting in front of a screen.  But is it?  Educational technology is advancing at an alarming rate and we, as a society, are trying to digest the changes.  While we may not always understand change, like utilizing screens instead of books, we need to try to understand that the idea of community will not be destroyed.  We will never &quot;loose&quot; community.  Will it&#039;s role change over the next decade--yes, it will--online communities and social networking is booming and becoming more and more popular.  Just remember that before we call it &quot;bad&quot; or &quot;poor&quot; or &quot;noneducational,&quot; we need to answer the question--Is it honestly poor/bad/noneducational or is it simply different?  I&#039;m going with different, just because I may not be a gamer and completely understand video games, doesn&#039;t mean that they are any less educational.  Thanks for the perspective and giving us &quot;techno food&quot; for thought Dean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first thing is clear.  We are victims of habit.  Oral tradition used to be way that people were taught.  Memorization was the technology being used.  We then progressed to books&#8211;ah! the culprit! which like both Dean and Rory stated was &#8220;terrible&#8221; and so like Rory stated books, the current advancing technology, were banned.  Now we are progressing to a digital age with computers and live video games and things of the sort&#8211;&#8221;state-of-the-art&#8221; technology.  And again we feel some tension.  Like Dean said, many feel that sitting silently reading a book is much more academic and scholarly than sitting in front of a screen.  But is it?  Educational technology is advancing at an alarming rate and we, as a society, are trying to digest the changes.  While we may not always understand change, like utilizing screens instead of books, we need to try to understand that the idea of community will not be destroyed.  We will never &#8220;loose&#8221; community.  Will it&#8217;s role change over the next decade&#8211;yes, it will&#8211;online communities and social networking is booming and becoming more and more popular.  Just remember that before we call it &#8220;bad&#8221; or &#8220;poor&#8221; or &#8220;noneducational,&#8221; we need to answer the question&#8211;Is it honestly poor/bad/noneducational or is it simply different?  I&#8217;m going with different, just because I may not be a gamer and completely understand video games, doesn&#8217;t mean that they are any less educational.  Thanks for the perspective and giving us &#8220;techno food&#8221; for thought Dean.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrea Nikolaou</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrea Nikolaou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 17:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree with this blog!! For once someone supporting something I have been feeling for years.  As a child I worked side-by-side with my brother to figure out and finish some tough video games.  It challenges your mind and got me used to working with someone rather than playing by my self.  Now today I can play with people around the world.  Reading for the purpose of learning something new, ie a textbook, would definetly be more usefull and fun if it were interactive.  Of course reading alone is peacefull, but who does not love to find someone reading the same novel so they can talk about what happened in the latest chapter?  Interactive reading with posts and highlighting would definetly have been someone I would have loved to have when I was a student struggling with my texts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree with this blog!! For once someone supporting something I have been feeling for years.  As a child I worked side-by-side with my brother to figure out and finish some tough video games.  It challenges your mind and got me used to working with someone rather than playing by my self.  Now today I can play with people around the world.  Reading for the purpose of learning something new, ie a textbook, would definetly be more usefull and fun if it were interactive.  Of course reading alone is peacefull, but who does not love to find someone reading the same novel so they can talk about what happened in the latest chapter?  Interactive reading with posts and highlighting would definetly have been someone I would have loved to have when I was a student struggling with my texts.</p>
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		<title>By: Dean Shareski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean Shareski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 04:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Ken

I perhaps didn&#039;t provide the full extent of Rory&#039;s use  but was just a conversation starter. That was my intent as well. However I do think it&#039;s important to have some historical perspective to use as we enter a new era of media and culture. This one, I hope, makes us think. I&#039;m not attempting here to resolve much of anything but like many of my posts, stir conversation.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Dean Shareskis last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://ideasandthoughts.org/2009/05/21/podcast-46-why-technology-a-follow-up-to-a-follow-up/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Podcast 46 Why Technology? A Follow up to a Follow Up&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Ken</p>
<p>I perhaps didn&#8217;t provide the full extent of Rory&#8217;s use  but was just a conversation starter. That was my intent as well. However I do think it&#8217;s important to have some historical perspective to use as we enter a new era of media and culture. This one, I hope, makes us think. I&#8217;m not attempting here to resolve much of anything but like many of my posts, stir conversation.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Dean Shareskis last blog post..<a href="http://ideasandthoughts.org/2009/05/21/podcast-46-why-technology-a-follow-up-to-a-follow-up/" rel="nofollow">Podcast 46 Why Technology? A Follow up to a Follow Up</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Ken Allan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Allan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 02:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kia ora Dean.

I posted about this YouTube video clip. I admit that I defended the book without even broaching the issue of TV or computer games etc. I got an email reply from Rory (not a comment) who maintains that his &#039;comment&#039; about the book in his speech was a metaphor that he used to springboard to addressing the wider issues to do with games etc.

But like most technologies (as Ira alludes to in comment) there are always varied aspects to what they bring to community, not all good - the sword, the spear, the arrow, the gun, the guided missile, to list one series of technological development. It is the apportionment of (absolute) blame (Rory uses the word &#039;culprit&#039;) to select one item that I wonder about. We&#039;d be as well blaming symbolism for it all.

Catchya later

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Ken Allans last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://newmiddle-earth.blogspot.com/2009/05/how-do-you-build-team.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;How Do You Build A Team?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kia ora Dean.</p>
<p>I posted about this YouTube video clip. I admit that I defended the book without even broaching the issue of TV or computer games etc. I got an email reply from Rory (not a comment) who maintains that his &#8216;comment&#8217; about the book in his speech was a metaphor that he used to springboard to addressing the wider issues to do with games etc.</p>
<p>But like most technologies (as Ira alludes to in comment) there are always varied aspects to what they bring to community, not all good &#8211; the sword, the spear, the arrow, the gun, the guided missile, to list one series of technological development. It is the apportionment of (absolute) blame (Rory uses the word &#8216;culprit&#8217;) to select one item that I wonder about. We&#8217;d be as well blaming symbolism for it all.</p>
<p>Catchya later</p>
<p><abbr><em>Ken Allans last blog post..<a href="http://newmiddle-earth.blogspot.com/2009/05/how-do-you-build-team.html" rel="nofollow">How Do You Build A Team?</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Ira Socol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ira Socol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 22:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is important to understand that the book DID destroy many things. Almost half the languages of Europe vanish within two centuries (think 10 generations) of Gutenberg. Didn&#039;t get a Bible? Your language was history. And Socrates was right, literacy caused all manner of problems.

But it&#039;s one of those trade off things. Every advance creates new challenges. I&#039;ve just been battling with Larry Sanger about this.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Ira Socols last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://speedchange.blogspot.com/2009/05/width-of-world.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Width of the World&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is important to understand that the book DID destroy many things. Almost half the languages of Europe vanish within two centuries (think 10 generations) of Gutenberg. Didn&#8217;t get a Bible? Your language was history. And Socrates was right, literacy caused all manner of problems.</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s one of those trade off things. Every advance creates new challenges. I&#8217;ve just been battling with Larry Sanger about this.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Ira Socols last blog post..<a href="http://speedchange.blogspot.com/2009/05/width-of-world.html" rel="nofollow">The Width of the World</a></em></abbr></p>
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