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		<title>By: Calum</title>
		<link>http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/06/19/iste-what-up/comment-page-1/#comment-30001</link>
		<dc:creator>Calum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Power of a Collective Voice &#171; Final Curve</title>
		<link>http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/06/19/iste-what-up/comment-page-1/#comment-29803</link>
		<dc:creator>Power of a Collective Voice &#171; Final Curve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 06:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] postings clearly identifying their opposition to this policy. Example of these are here, here, here, here, here, and here. The previous is just a sample of the blog posting I read within hours of the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] postings clearly identifying their opposition to this policy. Example of these are here, here, here, here, here, and here. The previous is just a sample of the blog posting I read within hours of the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Fitzgerald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Fitzgerald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 23:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, Dean,

I was glad to see you mention Northern Voice in your post -- NV provides an excellent model of what a conference can be, and its openness and inclusiveness and embrace of new and developing technologies could help inform planning for Ed Tech meetups.

Cheers,

Bill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, Dean,</p>
<p>I was glad to see you mention Northern Voice in your post &#8212; NV provides an excellent model of what a conference can be, and its openness and inclusiveness and embrace of new and developing technologies could help inform planning for Ed Tech meetups.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Bill</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; ISTE Changes This Year&#8217;s Policy; Bloggers Still Lose Bud the Teacher</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; ISTE Changes This Year&#8217;s Policy; Bloggers Still Lose Bud the Teacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 23:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] more patient and questioning language might have been used in the &#8220;investigation.&#8221;  Questions inviting dialogue, perhaps, rather than assumptions and anger.  I felt like we were headed up the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] more patient and questioning language might have been used in the &#8220;investigation.&#8221;  Questions inviting dialogue, perhaps, rather than assumptions and anger.  I felt like we were headed up the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dean Shareski</title>
		<link>http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/06/19/iste-what-up/comment-page-1/#comment-29789</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean Shareski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Miguel,

If the reason is fear folks won&#039;t attend live, I think Clarence&#039;s comments are bang on. As well, if folks read Here Comes Everybody, by Clay Shirky, he addressed the power of the  internet to bring people together face to face and that it is indeed a vehicle to provide and create more opportunities for social interactions. Viewing sessions virtually is as much about archiving and personal reflection as it is about broadcasting to others. But it does serve as a powerful marketing tool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miguel,</p>
<p>If the reason is fear folks won&#8217;t attend live, I think Clarence&#8217;s comments are bang on. As well, if folks read Here Comes Everybody, by Clay Shirky, he addressed the power of the  internet to bring people together face to face and that it is indeed a vehicle to provide and create more opportunities for social interactions. Viewing sessions virtually is as much about archiving and personal reflection as it is about broadcasting to others. But it does serve as a powerful marketing tool.</p>
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		<title>By: Miguel Guhlin</title>
		<link>http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/06/19/iste-what-up/comment-page-1/#comment-29788</link>
		<dc:creator>Miguel Guhlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dean, I&#039;m also grateful about you sharing the TLT policy on blogging, podcasting, etc. It is a wonderful example and one I will certainly share with organizations I&#039;m a part of.

I spoke with some insiders who suggested to NECC organizers make it possible to stream presentations (video/audio) into Second Life. The reaction apparently was negative. What I suspected when I read NECC&#039;s policy was that they are afraid of losing money. Per my source, this is exactly why sessions won&#039;t be streamed or shared via Second Life in any great quantity...they want people to attend NECC.

This is all in such direct opposition to the principles espoused in the NETS-S and I find it hypocritical. Of course, while no one is perfect, we do need to have a transparent, open conversation about it. The question is, Will ISTE engage bloggers in this conversation, or ignore them?

Thanks for sharing,
Miguel Guhlin
Around the Corner-mGuhlin.net
http://mguhlin.net

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dean, I&#8217;m also grateful about you sharing the TLT policy on blogging, podcasting, etc. It is a wonderful example and one I will certainly share with organizations I&#8217;m a part of.</p>
<p>I spoke with some insiders who suggested to NECC organizers make it possible to stream presentations (video/audio) into Second Life. The reaction apparently was negative. What I suspected when I read NECC&#8217;s policy was that they are afraid of losing money. Per my source, this is exactly why sessions won&#8217;t be streamed or shared via Second Life in any great quantity&#8230;they want people to attend NECC.</p>
<p>This is all in such direct opposition to the principles espoused in the NETS-S and I find it hypocritical. Of course, while no one is perfect, we do need to have a transparent, open conversation about it. The question is, Will ISTE engage bloggers in this conversation, or ignore them?</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing,<br />
Miguel Guhlin<br />
Around the Corner-mGuhlin.net<br />
<a href="http://mguhlin.net" rel="nofollow">http://mguhlin.net</a></p>
<p>Miguel Guhlins last blog post..1</p>
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		<title>By: Clarence Fisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clarence Fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had caught this policy in an ISTE publication when I first received it and thought it more than curious. Is this a Canadian - US thing or is it just a small organization vs. large organization thing? I know that last year, not being able to attend NECC in person, I attended many sessions virtually. I listened in on Skype and watched twitter reports roll by. This is the main reason I am going this year. Last year&#039;s sessions interested me, served as good PR and this year got me to spend my $$ on attending. Opening the doors to information never turns people away, it only brings them in.

Clarence Fishers last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/RemoteAccess/~3/315464702/ending-the-year-with-wordle.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ending the Year with Wordle&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had caught this policy in an ISTE publication when I first received it and thought it more than curious. Is this a Canadian &#8211; US thing or is it just a small organization vs. large organization thing? I know that last year, not being able to attend NECC in person, I attended many sessions virtually. I listened in on Skype and watched twitter reports roll by. This is the main reason I am going this year. Last year&#8217;s sessions interested me, served as good PR and this year got me to spend my $$ on attending. Opening the doors to information never turns people away, it only brings them in.</p>
<p>Clarence Fishers last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/RemoteAccess/~3/315464702/ending-the-year-with-wordle.html" rel="nofollow">Ending the Year with Wordle</a></p>
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		<title>By: Wesley Fryer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wesley Fryer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 06:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dean: I really appreciate you sharing the policies of the Canadien conferences you have recently attended-- I hope the ISTE folks will take note of that as well. Conversations... that is how we change. Hopefully these conversations will be constructive and move us forward. ISTE certainly has a great opportunity here to be responsive and more thoughtful than I think they should have been when this policy was formulated.

Wesley Fryers last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2008/06/20/podcasting-facilities-to-be-provided-at-necc-2008/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Podcasting facilities to be provided at NECC 2008&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dean: I really appreciate you sharing the policies of the Canadien conferences you have recently attended&#8211; I hope the ISTE folks will take note of that as well. Conversations&#8230; that is how we change. Hopefully these conversations will be constructive and move us forward. ISTE certainly has a great opportunity here to be responsive and more thoughtful than I think they should have been when this policy was formulated.</p>
<p>Wesley Fryers last blog post..<a href="http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2008/06/20/podcasting-facilities-to-be-provided-at-necc-2008/" rel="nofollow">Podcasting facilities to be provided at NECC 2008</a></p>
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		<title>By: mrsdurff</title>
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		<dc:creator>mrsdurff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 04:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is odd that this comes to lite today, with only a week to get permissions and hope ISTE grants persmissions. I have left the NECC ning and taken down all but one flake on the Pageflakes (so posts like yours are aggregated there and attendees who see the pageflakes will know....) What is your reaction?

mrsdurffs last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://durffsblog.blogspot.com/2008/06/iste-tear-down-these-walls.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ISTE Tear Down These Walls!&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is odd that this comes to lite today, with only a week to get permissions and hope ISTE grants persmissions. I have left the NECC ning and taken down all but one flake on the Pageflakes (so posts like yours are aggregated there and attendees who see the pageflakes will know&#8230;.) What is your reaction?</p>
<p>mrsdurffs last blog post..<a href="http://durffsblog.blogspot.com/2008/06/iste-tear-down-these-walls.html" rel="nofollow">ISTE Tear Down These Walls!</a></p>
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		<title>By: Richard Schwier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Schwier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 04:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and thanks for digging out the policy at TLt and posting it.  If I&#039;m ever on a conference planning committee, I&#039;ll promote the exact same policy statement.

Richard Schwiers last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://omegageek.net/rickscafe/?p=1176&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;U of S appoints Vice-Provost Teaching and Learning&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and thanks for digging out the policy at TLt and posting it.  If I&#8217;m ever on a conference planning committee, I&#8217;ll promote the exact same policy statement.</p>
<p>Richard Schwiers last blog post..<a href="http://omegageek.net/rickscafe/?p=1176" rel="nofollow">U of S appoints Vice-Provost Teaching and Learning</a></p>
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		<title>By: Richard Schwier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Schwier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 04:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m guessing -- no, hoping--that they feel the backlash on this and change the policy.  I&#039;m very envious of you being able to go to NECC, but sad that I won&#039;t bet to share any of your sessions vicariously.

Richard Schwiers last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://omegageek.net/rickscafe/?p=1176&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;U of S appoints Vice-Provost Teaching and Learning&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m guessing &#8212; no, hoping&#8211;that they feel the backlash on this and change the policy.  I&#8217;m very envious of you being able to go to NECC, but sad that I won&#8217;t bet to share any of your sessions vicariously.</p>
<p>Richard Schwiers last blog post..<a href="http://omegageek.net/rickscafe/?p=1176" rel="nofollow">U of S appoints Vice-Provost Teaching and Learning</a></p>
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