Comments on: I’m telling you for the last time http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/ I'm here to learn, join me Wed, 17 Mar 2010 00:08:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Preparations for a Online Social Networking Safety Seminar « Thumann Resources http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/comment-page-1/#comment-32502 Preparations for a Online Social Networking Safety Seminar « Thumann Resources Thu, 01 Oct 2009 18:01:39 +0000 http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/#comment-32502 [...] Shareski who blogs at IdeasandThoughts.org has passionately posted on the topic many times. His posts led me to some extremely relevant [...] [...] Shareski who blogs at IdeasandThoughts.org has passionately posted on the topic many times. His posts led me to some extremely relevant [...]

]]> By: Open Resource Centre : Online safety - the latest http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/comment-page-1/#comment-29625 Open Resource Centre : Online safety - the latest Fri, 23 May 2008 19:40:57 +0000 http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/#comment-29625 [...] victims of Internet-initiated sex crimes were 13 to 17 years old…none were younger than 12 *why include this point?Posting personal information online does not, by itself, appear to be a particularly risky [...] [...] victims of Internet-initiated sex crimes were 13 to 17 years old…none were younger than 12 *why include this point?Posting personal information online does not, by itself, appear to be a particularly risky [...]

]]> By: Ideas and Thoughts from an EdTech » Blog Archive » Beatrice, you’re way off! http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/comment-page-1/#comment-29171 Ideas and Thoughts from an EdTech » Blog Archive » Beatrice, you’re way off! Thu, 17 Apr 2008 20:47:10 +0000 http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/#comment-29171 [...] I don’t just ignore stories like this but feel compelled to speak out. Even the reporter lacked the background information to challenge her claim. I’ve written about this too often to [...] [...] I don’t just ignore stories like this but feel compelled to speak out. Even the reporter lacked the background information to challenge her claim. I’ve written about this too often to [...]

]]> By: Dean Shareski http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/comment-page-1/#comment-28943 Dean Shareski Thu, 27 Mar 2008 05:53:15 +0000 http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/#comment-28943 Tanya, I apologize if I offended you because that wasn't my intent. If there was a single incident that triggered this post, it was from a participant who muttered a comment about predators in a very smug way. I don't recall our specific discussion but certainly I don't mean to say it wasn't valid. My frustrations comes in that it continues to be the very first question. It's not that I feel that everyone should be aware but am frustrated by those that are quick to believe false and hyped media reports instead of asking thoughtful questions. My blog does offer the occasional rant and while it's not my intend to offend, it is my intent to "stir the pot". That said, I appreciate your pushing me on my approach and I certainly will take into consideration your thoughts. I'm glad you posted as this is the purpose of the blog, not simply to agree with me but to help me learn. Thanks. Tanya,

I apologize if I offended you because that wasn’t my intent. If there was a single incident that triggered this post, it was from a participant who muttered a comment about predators in a very smug way. I don’t recall our specific discussion but certainly I don’t mean to say it wasn’t valid.

My frustrations comes in that it continues to be the very first question. It’s not that I feel that everyone should be aware but am frustrated by those that are quick to believe false and hyped media reports instead of asking thoughtful questions.

My blog does offer the occasional rant and while it’s not my intend to offend, it is my intent to “stir the pot”. That said, I appreciate your pushing me on my approach and I certainly will take into consideration your thoughts. I’m glad you posted as this is the purpose of the blog, not simply to agree with me but to help me learn. Thanks.

]]> By: tanya http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/comment-page-1/#comment-28942 tanya Thu, 27 Mar 2008 05:27:57 +0000 http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/#comment-28942 There is a post that "I felt went over the top in terms of etiquette and manners", titled; I'm telling you for the last time". I believe that you were referring to the question that I asked at Showcase (although the quote that you included in your post was not completely accurate). It was not my intent to "bring an important conversation about learning to a grinding halt". I was actually hoping to get information (from someone that I respect and trust) to use when I am questioned for using photos (of my own children) online. I am on your side. Your post made it seem like I was the enemy, against all things good only after posing what I still believe was a fair question. I was very offended by the title of your post - "I'm telling you for the last time". It implies that this is information that everyone should know & that it is a complete waste of your time to have to discuss it yet again. I have only been on my Web 2.0 learning journey for the past year. I have completed the "Meet the Stars" online course and I have subscribed to your blog for the past year. I am not an idiot (although I did feel like one after reading your rant). I am far behind you in terms of Web 2.0 learning, however I am leaps & bounds ahead of many other educators. If you are indeed "frustrated with the lack of knowledge that folks have about this issue", I would hope that you would use the fantastic opportunity that you have (via your presentations & via this blog) to teach not chastise. There is a post that “I felt went over the top in terms of etiquette and manners”, titled; I’m telling you for the last time”. I believe that you were referring to the question that I asked at Showcase (although the quote that you included in your post was not completely accurate). It was not my intent to “bring an important conversation about learning to a grinding halt”. I was actually hoping to get information (from someone that I respect and trust) to use when I am questioned for using photos (of my own children) online. I am on your side. Your post made it seem like I was the enemy, against all things good only after posing what I still believe was a fair question. I was very offended by the title of your post – “I’m telling you for the last time”. It implies that this is information that everyone should know & that it is a complete waste of your time to have to discuss it yet again. I have only been on my Web 2.0 learning journey for the past year. I have completed the “Meet the Stars” online course and I have subscribed to your blog for the past year. I am not an idiot (although I did feel like one after reading your rant). I am far behind you in terms of Web 2.0 learning, however I am leaps & bounds ahead of many other educators. If you are indeed “frustrated with the lack of knowledge that folks have about this issue”, I would hope that you would use the fantastic opportunity that you have (via your presentations & via this blog) to teach not chastise.

]]> By: Conversation On Al Upton Situation With Alec Couros’s EC&I 831 Class | Mobile Technology in TAFE http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/comment-page-1/#comment-28914 Conversation On Al Upton Situation With Alec Couros’s EC&I 831 Class | Mobile Technology in TAFE Thu, 20 Mar 2008 07:20:27 +0000 http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/#comment-28914 [...] educating, educating — not denying. Rob Wall suggested we check out Dean Shareski’s I’m telling you for the last time post which discusses key sections from the APA Press [...] [...] educating, educating — not denying. Rob Wall suggested we check out Dean Shareski’s I’m telling you for the last time post which discusses key sections from the APA Press [...]

]]> By: Ideas and Thoughts from an EdTech » Blog Archive » I’m a hypocrite http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/comment-page-1/#comment-28874 Ideas and Thoughts from an EdTech » Blog Archive » I’m a hypocrite Mon, 17 Mar 2008 17:24:39 +0000 http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/#comment-28874 [...] become quite a strong advocate for downplaying the fear mongering and safety concerns of online life that have been proven false. At the same time, I’ve spent [...] [...] become quite a strong advocate for downplaying the fear mongering and safety concerns of online life that have been proven false. At the same time, I’ve spent [...]

]]> By: Brittany Ward http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/comment-page-1/#comment-28809 Brittany Ward Wed, 05 Mar 2008 22:36:09 +0000 http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/#comment-28809 Wow, reading through some of the responses, this appears to be a highly charges issue. I am learning more and more of what a hot topic it is by taking your ECMP 355 class. I want to post picutres of some of my family members online, and my dad and sister don't like it because they believes it will make some members of my family more prone to attacks of some kind. I tryed telling them it doesn't have a strong connection between more sexual crime and the use of technology but maybe I will have to pass this on them so they can read some more concrete proof. Thanks for blogging about this, even though you may seem it is a tired question. Brittany Wow, reading through some of the responses, this appears to be a highly charges issue. I am learning more and more of what a hot topic it is by taking your ECMP 355 class. I want to post picutres of some of my family members online, and my dad and sister don’t like it because they believes it will make some members of my family more prone to attacks of some kind. I tryed telling them it doesn’t have a strong connection between more sexual crime and the use of technology but maybe I will have to pass this on them so they can read some more concrete proof. Thanks for blogging about this, even though you may seem it is a tired question.
Brittany

]]> By: Internet Safety « Think for Yourself http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/comment-page-1/#comment-28807 Internet Safety « Think for Yourself Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:52:11 +0000 http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/#comment-28807 [...] There are some big misconceptions out there regarding students and internet safety. Dean Shareski adresses this issue in a recent [...] [...] There are some big misconceptions out there regarding students and internet safety. Dean Shareski adresses this issue in a recent [...]

]]> By: John Woodring http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/comment-page-1/#comment-28794 John Woodring Sun, 02 Mar 2008 02:37:01 +0000 http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/#comment-28794 This post reminded me of a discussion I had with the sports editor of our local newspaper. I was talking about how we at our school were developing rules to protect the identities of our students. However, newspapers, which now have an Internet presence, post full names, pictures, schedules, and even directions to games. When I made this point and asked him if he thought it posed a danger to children, the editor admitted he had never thought of it that way. This post reminded me of a discussion I had with the sports editor of our local newspaper. I was talking about how we at our school were developing rules to protect the identities of our students. However, newspapers, which now have an Internet presence, post full names, pictures, schedules, and even directions to games. When I made this point and asked him if he thought it posed a danger to children, the editor admitted he had never thought of it that way.

]]> By: Open Thinking & Digital Pedagogy » David Pogue on Internet Safety http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/comment-page-1/#comment-28789 Open Thinking & Digital Pedagogy » David Pogue on Internet Safety Sat, 01 Mar 2008 19:14:39 +0000 http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/#comment-28789 [...] See also “I’m telling you for the last time“. [...] [...] See also “I’m telling you for the last time“. [...]

]]> By: LonnieED205 http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/comment-page-1/#comment-28771 LonnieED205 Fri, 29 Feb 2008 05:25:20 +0000 http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/#comment-28771 Thanks for a great post! I agree that it seems people are extremely paranoid about web 2.0. Myspace has been a great tool for me, as a musician. I still have friends my age (I am 37) that are afraid to create a page because they think that someone will "steal their identity". I also know parents that will not allow their child to have a myspace but are fine for him to walk to school alone. I do believe that these are only early growing pains we are experiencing. People just fear it because it isn't fully understood yet. People today have problems sharing anything. Even information. Web 2.0 is everybodies. I think people fear that. If I post it, is it still mine all mine! It won't be long before everyone is plugged in and gaining from this new technology. Thanks for a great post! I agree that it seems people are extremely paranoid about web 2.0. Myspace has been a great tool for me, as a musician. I still have friends my age (I am 37) that are afraid to create a page because they think that someone will “steal their identity”. I also know parents that will not allow their child to have a myspace but are fine for him to walk to school alone.

I do believe that these are only early growing pains we are experiencing. People just fear it because it isn’t fully understood yet. People today have problems sharing anything. Even information. Web 2.0 is everybodies. I think people fear that. If I post it, is it still mine all mine!

It won’t be long before everyone is plugged in and gaining from this new technology.

]]> By: Posting Pictures Online « ed-volution http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/comment-page-1/#comment-28769 Posting Pictures Online « ed-volution Fri, 29 Feb 2008 02:10:34 +0000 http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/#comment-28769 [...] Tags: Dean Shareski, online safety, pixie trackback Dean Shareski wrote a really good post about posting kids pictures online that I haven’t been able to stop thinking about the past few days. . . . I’m still [...] [...] Tags: Dean Shareski, online safety, pixie trackback Dean Shareski wrote a really good post about posting kids pictures online that I haven’t been able to stop thinking about the past few days. . . . I’m still [...]

]]> By: Facebook » Comment on I’m telling you for the last time by Jeff… http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/comment-page-1/#comment-28767 Facebook » Comment on I’m telling you for the last time by Jeff… Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:06:19 +0000 http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/#comment-28767 [...] MobHappy wrote an interesting post today on Comment on Iâm telling you for the last time by Jeff…Here’s a quick excerptAfter reading this research, and because I’m an avid facebook user without ever having heard of any instances of sexual predators through any of my… [...]

]]> By: Jeff Alexander(205) http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/comment-page-1/#comment-28765 Jeff Alexander(205) Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:11:15 +0000 http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/#comment-28765 After reading this research, and because I'm an avid facebook user without ever having heard of any instances of sexual predators through any of my friends, I think that there is a lot more hype than there should be. Of course there are going to be a few perverts out there who try to take advantage of some young people, but lets face it... there are going to be bad people in any venue trying to use it to their own ends. Instead of blocking out completely great applications that could really help young students network with each other to work on projects together or ask and discuss questions, we should be trying to moderate these types of websites to help protect students. Lets face it... they're just going to find a way to go to it anyways. If we worked to help make it safer (for instance, having "groups" in facebook to be used as class forums that a teacher could watch over, to make sure only students of that class were invited) than we could use these sites to their potential and keep students safe, all at the same time. After reading this research, and because I’m an avid facebook user without ever having heard of any instances of sexual predators through any of my friends, I think that there is a lot more hype than there should be. Of course there are going to be a few perverts out there who try to take advantage of some young people, but lets face it… there are going to be bad people in any venue trying to use it to their own ends. Instead of blocking out completely great applications that could really help young students network with each other to work on projects together or ask and discuss questions, we should be trying to moderate these types of websites to help protect students. Lets face it… they’re just going to find a way to go to it anyways. If we worked to help make it safer (for instance, having “groups” in facebook to be used as class forums that a teacher could watch over, to make sure only students of that class were invited) than we could use these sites to their potential and keep students safe, all at the same time.

]]> By: EDITing in the Dark » Posting Safety http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/comment-page-1/#comment-28764 EDITing in the Dark » Posting Safety Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:14:57 +0000 http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/#comment-28764 [...] is an interesting post to have stumbled on. After all the news about how social networking sites are dangerous in terms of [...] [...] is an interesting post to have stumbled on. After all the news about how social networking sites are dangerous in terms of [...]

]]> By: 益学会 > OLDaily 中文版 » Blog Archive » 2008年2月25日：演讲幻灯，网络隐私，个人学习网络，Learnitlists，Blackboard专利权诉讼案 http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/comment-page-1/#comment-28760 益学会 > OLDaily 中文版 » Blog Archive » 2008年2月25日：演讲幻灯，网络隐私，个人学习网络，Learnitlists，Blackboard专利权诉讼案 Wed, 27 Feb 2008 06:30:01 +0000 http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/#comment-28760 [...] Shareski, Ideas and thoughts from an EdTech February 25, 2008 [原文链接] [Tags: Privacy Issues, Networks, Research] [...] [...] Shareski, Ideas and thoughts from an EdTech February 25, 2008 [原文链接] [Tags: Privacy Issues, Networks, Research] [...]

]]> By: Online Predators « Jamieson Kane http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/comment-page-1/#comment-28757 Online Predators « Jamieson Kane Wed, 27 Feb 2008 00:55:22 +0000 http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/#comment-28757 [...] http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/ [...] [...] http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/ [...]

]]> By: Dean Shareski http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/comment-page-1/#comment-28756 Dean Shareski Tue, 26 Feb 2008 22:44:11 +0000 http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/#comment-28756 Well, I appreciate you saying it again because I get asked about this all the time. Now I have more resources to back up what I say. Thanks Dean. Well, I appreciate you saying it again because I get asked about this all the time. Now I have more resources to back up what I say. Thanks Dean.

]]> By: Risky Online Behavior More Dangerous than Posting Personal Information | Willis Says http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/comment-page-1/#comment-28751 Risky Online Behavior More Dangerous than Posting Personal Information | Willis Says Tue, 26 Feb 2008 07:30:41 +0000 http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/#comment-28751 [...] Turns out, it’s not really a problem for kids either. Dean Shareski encounters the myths of children’s online safety when he presents at conferences. He blogs his frustration with dealing with the myths here [...] [...] Turns out, it’s not really a problem for kids either. Dean Shareski encounters the myths of children’s online safety when he presents at conferences. He blogs his frustration with dealing with the myths here [...]

]]> By: dean shareski sums it up… « GNUosphere http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/comment-page-1/#comment-28749 dean shareski sums it up… « GNUosphere Mon, 25 Feb 2008 18:21:10 +0000 http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/#comment-28749 [...] dean shareski sums it up… [The safety hysteria is] a ridiculous barrier to great learning and opportunity. [...] [...] dean shareski sums it up… [The safety hysteria is] a ridiculous barrier to great learning and opportunity. [...]

]]> By: David http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/comment-page-1/#comment-28746 David Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:23:42 +0000 http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/#comment-28746 Thanks. I feel honored to get a video response. Again, I agree with you; I just wanted a clarification as I want to have a well reasoned response in case I receive a similar question. Thanks. I feel honored to get a video response.

Again, I agree with you; I just wanted a clarification as I want to have a well reasoned response in case I receive a similar question.

]]> By: David http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/comment-page-1/#comment-28745 David Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:23:23 +0000 http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/#comment-28745 Thanks. I feel honored to get a video response. Again, I agree with you; I just wanted a clarification as want to have a well reasoned response in case I receive a similar question. Thanks. I feel honored to get a video response.

Again, I agree with you; I just wanted a clarification as want to have a well reasoned response in case I receive a similar question.

]]> By: Dean Shareski http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/comment-page-1/#comment-28744 Dean Shareski Mon, 25 Feb 2008 04:53:45 +0000 http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/#comment-28744 My response to David's point [riffly_video]730C0B06E35D11DCAE8AD0A456B4F508[/riffly_video] My response to David’s point
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]]> By: The Emotion-Charged Debate about Internet Safety « Technology for Learning http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/comment-page-1/#comment-28743 The Emotion-Charged Debate about Internet Safety « Technology for Learning Mon, 25 Feb 2008 04:44:46 +0000 http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/#comment-28743 [...] Internet Safety Posted on February 24, 2008 by roadrunner Dean Shareski linked today to an important article about Internet safety for kids. The article debunks the myths that the Internet is always an unsafe [...] [...] Internet Safety Posted on February 24, 2008 by roadrunner Dean Shareski linked today to an important article about Internet safety for kids. The article debunks the myths that the Internet is always an unsafe [...]

]]> By: David http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/comment-page-1/#comment-28736 David Mon, 25 Feb 2008 00:40:47 +0000 http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/#comment-28736 I don't understand how the first bullet point, "99% of victims of Internet-initiated sex crimes were 13 to 17 years old…none were younger than 12," supports the position that posting kids' pictures online is safe. I agree with you that posting pictures online is not dangerous and the media has successfully scared the public about this, but let me play devil's advocate . . . Yes, it's good that none of the victims were under 12 but 99% of Internet sex-crime victims were still underage. So, having teenagers post pictures online isn't a good idea. I don’t understand how the first bullet point, “99% of victims of Internet-initiated sex crimes were 13 to 17 years old…none were younger than 12,” supports the position that posting kids’ pictures online is safe. I agree with you that posting pictures online is not dangerous and the media has successfully scared the public about this, but let me play devil’s advocate . . .

Yes, it’s good that none of the victims were under 12 but 99% of Internet sex-crime victims were still underage. So, having teenagers post pictures online isn’t a good idea.

]]> By: Dean Shareski http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/comment-page-1/#comment-28735 Dean Shareski Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:09:12 +0000 http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/#comment-28735 Ian, Some of those issues are not borne out of fear as much as a security concern. We've had some struggles with Skype as well. Our IT have installed it for teachers who are using it on a regular basis but are not willing to include in as part of a regular build. The Facebook issue is another one and again, the issue is more about teachers seeing it as not only non-educational but a distraction. Blocking is the easy way to deal with this. I certainly encourage you to advocate for the use of the tools as essentials for learning. I'm confident you've already thought this through and now need to be patient and relentless at the same time in challenging the status quo. Ian,

Some of those issues are not borne out of fear as much as a security concern. We’ve had some struggles with Skype as well. Our IT have installed it for teachers who are using it on a regular basis but are not willing to include in as part of a regular build.

The Facebook issue is another one and again, the issue is more about teachers seeing it as not only non-educational but a distraction. Blocking is the easy way to deal with this.

I certainly encourage you to advocate for the use of the tools as essentials for learning. I’m confident you’ve already thought this through and now need to be patient and relentless at the same time in challenging the status quo.

]]> By: Sharon Peters http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/comment-page-1/#comment-28734 Sharon Peters Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:56:56 +0000 http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/#comment-28734 Great post, Dean! I am passing the APA article around to all those in my sphere of influence! Great post, Dean! I am passing the APA article around to all those in my sphere of influence!

]]> By: Ian H. http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/comment-page-1/#comment-28733 Ian H. Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:14:01 +0000 http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/#comment-28733 You'd think then that school divisions would be more likely to allow walled-garden-style social networking sites (if it was simply a matter of protecting students from predators). That's obviously not borne out in the real world, as more and more districts block sites like Facebook (semi-walled) and do not allow installations of networking applications like Skype and Elgg. I get frustrated attempting to explain the educational value of a site/application I want to use to the IT folks, and all the more so because I don't think I should have to. Unfortunately, in some instances, I'm out in front of the curve from the IT people, and more so from the rest of the staff (it helps that I teach CPT), so they don't see the potential/value in some of the things I'm trying to do. You’d think then that school divisions would be more likely to allow walled-garden-style social networking sites (if it was simply a matter of protecting students from predators). That’s obviously not borne out in the real world, as more and more districts block sites like Facebook (semi-walled) and do not allow installations of networking applications like Skype and Elgg. I get frustrated attempting to explain the educational value of a site/application I want to use to the IT folks, and all the more so because I don’t think I should have to. Unfortunately, in some instances, I’m out in front of the curve from the IT people, and more so from the rest of the staff (it helps that I teach CPT), so they don’t see the potential/value in some of the things I’m trying to do.

]]> By: Myspace » I’m telling you for the last time http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/comment-page-1/#comment-28731 Myspace » I’m telling you for the last time Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:54:06 +0000 http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/02/24/im-telling-you-for-the-last-time/#comment-28731 [...] Ideas and Thoughts from an EdTech wrote an interesting post today on Iâm telling you for the last timeHere’s a quick excerptI’m telling you for the last time Posted by: Dean Shareski in digitalcitizenship, rants, workshops Stealing a title for a certain comedian’s performance, I wish this would be the last time but I know it won’t. If you asked anyone who’s ever presented at a conference about web 2.0, Read/Write Web or whatever you want to call it, they will tell that the most common type of question or comment from teachers goes something like this: “Yah, but what about posting kids pictures online? Aren’t yo [...]

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