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		<title>By: Ideas and Thoughts from an EdTech &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What&#8217;s for Supper?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ideas and Thoughts from an EdTech &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What&#8217;s for Supper?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 01:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] while all this is easily dismissed as silliness, it demonstrates a number of things about networks. There are actually a few good ideas here.&#160; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ThemePassion - Best stuff about design! &#187; Shifted Learning and Silliness</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThemePassion - Best stuff about design! &#187; Shifted Learning and Silliness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] barbie (posted by brian_d_foy) wrote an interesting post today!.Here&#8217;s a quick excerptI’ve added this video and several others to various presentations I’ve done to illustrate one aspect of shifted learning. Silliness can be defined as a lack of seriousness, wisdom and even good sense. To many, this type of endeavour &#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] barbie (posted by brian_d_foy) wrote an interesting post today!.Here&#8217;s a quick excerptI’ve added this video and several others to various presentations I’ve done to illustrate one aspect of shifted learning. Silliness can be defined as a lack of seriousness, wisdom and even good sense. To many, this type of endeavour &#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: MaryAnn Sansonetti</title>
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		<dc:creator>MaryAnn Sansonetti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 01:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen! If it wasn&#039;t for things like Twitter, blogs, and Facebook (although I am just now realizing its power) I would not be any where near the &quot;know&quot; with educational technology. At least with all of these venues I can find what I need when I need it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen! If it wasn&#8217;t for things like Twitter, blogs, and Facebook (although I am just now realizing its power) I would not be any where near the &#8220;know&#8221; with educational technology. At least with all of these venues I can find what I need when I need it.</p>
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		<title>By: addictinggames &#187; Shifted Learning and Silliness</title>
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		<dc:creator>addictinggames &#187; Shifted Learning and Silliness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 04:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: centralsq &#187; Shifted Learning and Silliness</title>
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		<dc:creator>centralsq &#187; Shifted Learning and Silliness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Carolyn Foote</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carolyn Foote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 13:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When did we stop thinking learning could be fun, anyway?  I think when you say that, some people go to this &quot;I&#039;m not here to provide entertainment&quot; mode, which isn&#039;t what that means at all.

Learning can be playful--and the playfulness, the experimentation, the &quot;oh wow&quot; isn&#039;t that cool factor--that&#039;s what makes learning &quot;fun,&quot; not someone at the front of the room entertaining us.   But someone at the front of the room who likes to play with ideas.  Elementary schools seem to understand that better than other grade levels, sometimes.

I heard a law librarian speaking at the Internet Librarian conference and she was saying that when attorneys hear about some of these tools, like social networking, they sometimes dismiss them out of hand because they associate them with something their children are doing &quot;for fun&quot; so they don&#039;t see the point in them and think they are frivolous.

Frequently in workshops you hear teachers expressing that it&#039;s a waste of time if they are having fun...because they could be doing something else.   (but maybe that is &quot;forced fun&quot; and that&#039;s different than spontaneous fun??)   Maybe we just take ourselves too seriously?  Maybe we forget how to play?    

Anyway, love this post and the notion of silliness that we can learn from.   I also might add that fun/silliness/play build community.  That&#039;s part of the fun of learning in a twitter network for me.

Thanks for the enlightening post ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When did we stop thinking learning could be fun, anyway?  I think when you say that, some people go to this &#8220;I&#8217;m not here to provide entertainment&#8221; mode, which isn&#8217;t what that means at all.</p>
<p>Learning can be playful&#8211;and the playfulness, the experimentation, the &#8220;oh wow&#8221; isn&#8217;t that cool factor&#8211;that&#8217;s what makes learning &#8220;fun,&#8221; not someone at the front of the room entertaining us.   But someone at the front of the room who likes to play with ideas.  Elementary schools seem to understand that better than other grade levels, sometimes.</p>
<p>I heard a law librarian speaking at the Internet Librarian conference and she was saying that when attorneys hear about some of these tools, like social networking, they sometimes dismiss them out of hand because they associate them with something their children are doing &#8220;for fun&#8221; so they don&#8217;t see the point in them and think they are frivolous.</p>
<p>Frequently in workshops you hear teachers expressing that it&#8217;s a waste of time if they are having fun&#8230;because they could be doing something else.   (but maybe that is &#8220;forced fun&#8221; and that&#8217;s different than spontaneous fun??)   Maybe we just take ourselves too seriously?  Maybe we forget how to play?    </p>
<p>Anyway, love this post and the notion of silliness that we can learn from.   I also might add that fun/silliness/play build community.  That&#8217;s part of the fun of learning in a twitter network for me.</p>
<p>Thanks for the enlightening post <img src='http://ideasandthoughts.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: hot92 &#187; Shifted Learning and Silliness</title>
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		<dc:creator>hot92 &#187; Shifted Learning and Silliness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 15:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: qzelite &#187; Shifted Learning and Silliness</title>
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		<dc:creator>qzelite &#187; Shifted Learning and Silliness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 03:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Melanie Holtsman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melanie Holtsman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Watching the banter back and forth between you two is enough entertainment to sign up for twitter!

Seriously, though, I have watched many ustreams, read blog posts and visited websites where I have learned so much and it would never have been possible if I didn&#039;t tweet.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watching the banter back and forth between you two is enough entertainment to sign up for twitter!</p>
<p>Seriously, though, I have watched many ustreams, read blog posts and visited websites where I have learned so much and it would never have been possible if I didn&#8217;t tweet.  <img src='http://ideasandthoughts.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: David Jakes</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Jakes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An now unemployed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An now unemployed.</p>
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		<title>By: Dean Shareski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean Shareski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 15:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,

You&#039;re silly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re silly.</p>
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		<title>By: David Jakes</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Jakes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 15:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks a lot Dean, good thing they don&#039;t read blogs.  Deleting Twitter account.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks a lot Dean, good thing they don&#8217;t read blogs.  Deleting Twitter account.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Levine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Levine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 12:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yay for the power of silliness! 

My whole experience with twitter, of hearing about it early on and dismissing it because my initial glance (from the outside) was, &quot;This is the most stupid thing I ever heard of! How would take the time to bother informing the world of what they ate for breakfast, watched  on TV, scratched their knee, etc... and why am I reading it?&quot;. Coming back to it after checking out some ideas from other colleagues, looking at it from the inside. took me on a curve I called the &quot;Twitter Life cycle&quot;, and it became the center of my presentation I call &quot;Being There...&quot; http://cogdogroo.wikispaces.com/Being+There

The issue is that with things like Twitter, YouTube, Facebook, we look at what looks like inane content there rather than looking more closely at the affordances, potentials it provides- like dismissing the usefulness of the circuits in our television sets because of the crappy shows we see there.

So for those that dismiss them from the outside because of a knee jerk reaction of &quot;that is silly&quot;, we need to find ways to look deeper, to examine such things from the inside, and most of all, increase the amount of signal (Good uses of tech) to the visible noise (the inane content). We need more signal!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yay for the power of silliness! </p>
<p>My whole experience with twitter, of hearing about it early on and dismissing it because my initial glance (from the outside) was, &#8220;This is the most stupid thing I ever heard of! How would take the time to bother informing the world of what they ate for breakfast, watched  on TV, scratched their knee, etc&#8230; and why am I reading it?&#8221;. Coming back to it after checking out some ideas from other colleagues, looking at it from the inside. took me on a curve I called the &#8220;Twitter Life cycle&#8221;, and it became the center of my presentation I call &#8220;Being There&#8230;&#8221; <a href="http://cogdogroo.wikispaces.com/Being+There" rel="nofollow">http://cogdogroo.wikispaces.com/Being+There</a></p>
<p>The issue is that with things like Twitter, YouTube, Facebook, we look at what looks like inane content there rather than looking more closely at the affordances, potentials it provides- like dismissing the usefulness of the circuits in our television sets because of the crappy shows we see there.</p>
<p>So for those that dismiss them from the outside because of a knee jerk reaction of &#8220;that is silly&#8221;, we need to find ways to look deeper, to examine such things from the inside, and most of all, increase the amount of signal (Good uses of tech) to the visible noise (the inane content). We need more signal!!</p>
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