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		<title>By: Ideas and Thoughts from an EdTech &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Great Debates</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Gary Stager</title>
		<link>http://ideasandthoughts.org/2007/09/04/follow-the-bouncy-conversation/comment-page-1/#comment-27424</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Stager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 00:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dean,

It&#039;s all good. 

I don&#039;t think that educators have a monopoly on truth. The same applies to folks who write pop business books. I just think more so.

You may also have noticed that schools seem immune to many of the&quot;revolutions&quot; in society. I suspect that this trend is likely to continue.

In the &quot;it&#039;s a small world&quot; category, the guy who most viciously attacked my article quotes a mutual friend of ours on his blog. This makes me less concerned about my own safety.

All the best,

Gary</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dean,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all good. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that educators have a monopoly on truth. The same applies to folks who write pop business books. I just think more so.</p>
<p>You may also have noticed that schools seem immune to many of the&#8221;revolutions&#8221; in society. I suspect that this trend is likely to continue.</p>
<p>In the &#8220;it&#8217;s a small world&#8221; category, the guy who most viciously attacked my article quotes a mutual friend of ours on his blog. This makes me less concerned about my own safety.</p>
<p>All the best,</p>
<p>Gary</p>
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		<title>By: Dean Shareski</title>
		<link>http://ideasandthoughts.org/2007/09/04/follow-the-bouncy-conversation/comment-page-1/#comment-27423</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean Shareski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 00:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand your arguement and while I agree on many points I don&#039;t agree that in order for educational revolution to occur that it must be developed by educators.

When you consider revolutions that occur in business, sports or other organizations, it&#039;s quite often the result of outside agencies or perspectives that offer a new way of operating.

I think many of the tools we use are forcing us to consider new approaches or at least a break from industrial aged education.  I realize your point wasn&#039;t to discount the tools but I did want to point out, in perhaps an exaggerated fashion that your point, when taken to the the endth degree could be interpreted that we need to focus on tools designed by educators.

I know you feel strongly about educator&#039;s embracing non-educators ideas/books/work.  It doesn&#039;t bother me and in fact I advocate their use.

I hope I don&#039;t appear to be hostile or personal. As you can see, I&#039;ve promoted and enjoyed your work and will continue but on this one point, we disagree.

By the way, I&#039;d love to have you on the edtechposse podcast sometime if you&#039;re interested...always enjoy your work; just don&#039;t always agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand your arguement and while I agree on many points I don&#8217;t agree that in order for educational revolution to occur that it must be developed by educators.</p>
<p>When you consider revolutions that occur in business, sports or other organizations, it&#8217;s quite often the result of outside agencies or perspectives that offer a new way of operating.</p>
<p>I think many of the tools we use are forcing us to consider new approaches or at least a break from industrial aged education.  I realize your point wasn&#8217;t to discount the tools but I did want to point out, in perhaps an exaggerated fashion that your point, when taken to the the endth degree could be interpreted that we need to focus on tools designed by educators.</p>
<p>I know you feel strongly about educator&#8217;s embracing non-educators ideas/books/work.  It doesn&#8217;t bother me and in fact I advocate their use.</p>
<p>I hope I don&#8217;t appear to be hostile or personal. As you can see, I&#8217;ve promoted and enjoyed your work and will continue but on this one point, we disagree.</p>
<p>By the way, I&#8217;d love to have you on the edtechposse podcast sometime if you&#8217;re interested&#8230;always enjoy your work; just don&#8217;t always agree.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Stager</title>
		<link>http://ideasandthoughts.org/2007/09/04/follow-the-bouncy-conversation/comment-page-1/#comment-27422</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Stager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 23:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely you do not believe that I am advocating workbooks, textbooks or workshops - although many of your favorite authors earn a comfortable living doing workshops. In the spirit of full-disclosure I&#039;ve spent 25 years working independently as a teacher educator, speaker and workshop leader. One look at my body of work and you can&#039;t miss the fact that I advocate rich, authentic experiences and access to primary sources (for example: BOOKS) for children and teachers too.

I admire many of the same tools you do. I use them. I teach them. I teach with them. That was not the point of my article.

I was offering a hypothesis, by way of historical comparison, of why the tools that Web 2.0 advocates) are failing to bring about an educational revolution.

It seems odd that so much personal identity and hostility is wrapped-up in specific computer applications.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely you do not believe that I am advocating workbooks, textbooks or workshops &#8211; although many of your favorite authors earn a comfortable living doing workshops. In the spirit of full-disclosure I&#8217;ve spent 25 years working independently as a teacher educator, speaker and workshop leader. One look at my body of work and you can&#8217;t miss the fact that I advocate rich, authentic experiences and access to primary sources (for example: BOOKS) for children and teachers too.</p>
<p>I admire many of the same tools you do. I use them. I teach them. I teach with them. That was not the point of my article.</p>
<p>I was offering a hypothesis, by way of historical comparison, of why the tools that Web 2.0 advocates) are failing to bring about an educational revolution.</p>
<p>It seems odd that so much personal identity and hostility is wrapped-up in specific computer applications.</p>
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		<title>By: Heather Ross</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 15:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, Dean. I&#039;d also like to point out that Gutenberg was not an educator, yet we continue to use textbooks printed on a press.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Dean. I&#8217;d also like to point out that Gutenberg was not an educator, yet we continue to use textbooks printed on a press.</p>
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		<title>By: John Pederson</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Pederson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 11:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool.  Now I&#039;m almost ready to go back and read the longer thread behind this post.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool.  Now I&#8217;m almost ready to go back and read the longer thread behind this post.  <img src='http://ideasandthoughts.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dean Shareski</title>
		<link>http://ideasandthoughts.org/2007/09/04/follow-the-bouncy-conversation/comment-page-1/#comment-27414</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean Shareski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 04:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d love to see your thoughts.  Your perspective would carry a lot of weight....with me anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d love to see your thoughts.  Your perspective would carry a lot of weight&#8230;.with me anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Ahlness</title>
		<link>http://ideasandthoughts.org/2007/09/04/follow-the-bouncy-conversation/comment-page-1/#comment-27413</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Ahlness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 04:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dean, thank you for corraling the conversation - so far! I&#039;ve written a post, but will hang onto it and probably eat it because I don&#039;t have the time to put into really representing my thoughts well in this. Somewhere in the conversation I hope a classroom teacher voice emerges. - Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dean, thank you for corraling the conversation &#8211; so far! I&#8217;ve written a post, but will hang onto it and probably eat it because I don&#8217;t have the time to put into really representing my thoughts well in this. Somewhere in the conversation I hope a classroom teacher voice emerges. &#8211; Mark</p>
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