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		<title>By: Jonathan Nalder</title>
		<link>http://ideasandthoughts.org/2007/04/23/this-is-what-we-are-dealing-with/comment-page-1/#comment-28572</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Nalder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 03:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a bit late to comment on this article, but yes Education is a great big dinosaur! Perhaps when this generation of cell-phone using kids become teachers themselves things will begin to change... the comments here have been great to get ideas from. I gathered some positive ideas about policy on mobiles in schools together in a paper late last year - its hosted at mLearnxyz.net. Ok, keep up the mobile learning postings!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a bit late to comment on this article, but yes Education is a great big dinosaur! Perhaps when this generation of cell-phone using kids become teachers themselves things will begin to change&#8230; the comments here have been great to get ideas from. I gathered some positive ideas about policy on mobiles in schools together in a paper late last year &#8211; its hosted at mLearnxyz.net. Ok, keep up the mobile learning postings!</p>
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		<title>By: Quentin D'Souza</title>
		<link>http://ideasandthoughts.org/2007/04/23/this-is-what-we-are-dealing-with/comment-page-1/#comment-26255</link>
		<dc:creator>Quentin D'Souza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 01:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See this Article:

What Can You Learn from a Cell Phone? Almost Anything! by Marc Pensky

http://innovateonline.info/index.php?view=article&amp;id=83

Do you want more let&#039;s do this... the next time someone tells you to get rid of cellphones - let&#039;s have a response!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See this Article:</p>
<p>What Can You Learn from a Cell Phone? Almost Anything! by Marc Pensky</p>
<p><a href="http://innovateonline.info/index.php?view=article&amp;id=83" rel="nofollow">http://innovateonline.info/index.php?view=article&amp;id=83</a></p>
<p>Do you want more let&#8217;s do this&#8230; the next time someone tells you to get rid of cellphones &#8211; let&#8217;s have a response!</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Pass</title>
		<link>http://ideasandthoughts.org/2007/04/23/this-is-what-we-are-dealing-with/comment-page-1/#comment-26254</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Pass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 23:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not enlist our studnents to help us think about the most effective ways to use cell phones in class.  Let them use their cell phones and social network sites to find out how other students are using cell phones in class.  Ask them to write a written response to this question.  These responses could be put on a wiki for further collaboration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not enlist our studnents to help us think about the most effective ways to use cell phones in class.  Let them use their cell phones and social network sites to find out how other students are using cell phones in class.  Ask them to write a written response to this question.  These responses could be put on a wiki for further collaboration.</p>
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		<title>By: Quentin D'Souza</title>
		<link>http://ideasandthoughts.org/2007/04/23/this-is-what-we-are-dealing-with/comment-page-1/#comment-26253</link>
		<dc:creator>Quentin D'Souza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 20:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay Dean - I just can&#039;t help myself on this topic.  

My question is - is it cell phones that facilitate cheating or is that way we have designed our evaluations?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay Dean &#8211; I just can&#8217;t help myself on this topic.  </p>
<p>My question is &#8211; is it cell phones that facilitate cheating or is that way we have designed our evaluations?</p>
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		<title>By: Quentin D'Souza</title>
		<link>http://ideasandthoughts.org/2007/04/23/this-is-what-we-are-dealing-with/comment-page-1/#comment-26252</link>
		<dc:creator>Quentin D'Souza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 20:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a few ideas myself, mostly to reuse cellphones for educational purposes which depend on the features available in phones.  We just need to think of a few Teaching Hacks by looking at what the tool can do.  5 minutes of brainstorming = 

Use photo feature to capture two blackboards full of writing that students were supposed to copy down after 100 minutes of class time by a history teacher. (Some old resentment here)

Capture video of science experiments for labs and share the results with the teacher to annotate projects or use as part of the process.

Students record notes from their classes by using the voicemail features - or cell to podcast web tools.

Use RMinder http://www.rminder.com/ to blast voice and text reminders to students based on assignments and due dates of different events.  Can even match to events in outlook, google cal, ical and more.

Anyone else ready to tango on this??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a few ideas myself, mostly to reuse cellphones for educational purposes which depend on the features available in phones.  We just need to think of a few Teaching Hacks by looking at what the tool can do.  5 minutes of brainstorming = </p>
<p>Use photo feature to capture two blackboards full of writing that students were supposed to copy down after 100 minutes of class time by a history teacher. (Some old resentment here)</p>
<p>Capture video of science experiments for labs and share the results with the teacher to annotate projects or use as part of the process.</p>
<p>Students record notes from their classes by using the voicemail features &#8211; or cell to podcast web tools.</p>
<p>Use RMinder <a href="http://www.rminder.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.rminder.com/</a> to blast voice and text reminders to students based on assignments and due dates of different events.  Can even match to events in outlook, google cal, ical and more.</p>
<p>Anyone else ready to tango on this??</p>
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		<title>By: Dean Shareski</title>
		<link>http://ideasandthoughts.org/2007/04/23/this-is-what-we-are-dealing-with/comment-page-1/#comment-26251</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean Shareski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 15:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kurt,

I certainly can&#039;t speak to any personal examples. Here are a few links:

http://www.eschoolnews.com/eti/2004/10/000294.php

http://www.glencoe.com/sec/teachingtoday/educationupclose.phtml/52

Wes Fryer is currently developing a workshop on the use of cellphones:
http://teachdigital.pbwiki.com/cellphones

For me, this is one great example of not coming to the discussion with all the answers or a clear plan of attack. Typically, in education we want to have all these in place before we begin an implementation. I think we need to be more exploratory in our use of cellphones, find small ways to use them at first and work at using them as one more tool in our arsenal. There are certainly occasions when they aren&#039;t appropriate as with any tool but we can&#039;t ignore them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kurt,</p>
<p>I certainly can&#8217;t speak to any personal examples. Here are a few links:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.eschoolnews.com/eti/2004/10/000294.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.eschoolnews.com/eti/2004/10/000294.php</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.glencoe.com/sec/teachingtoday/educationupclose.phtml/52" rel="nofollow">http://www.glencoe.com/sec/teachingtoday/educationupclose.phtml/52</a></p>
<p>Wes Fryer is currently developing a workshop on the use of cellphones:<br />
<a href="http://teachdigital.pbwiki.com/cellphones" rel="nofollow">http://teachdigital.pbwiki.com/cellphones</a></p>
<p>For me, this is one great example of not coming to the discussion with all the answers or a clear plan of attack. Typically, in education we want to have all these in place before we begin an implementation. I think we need to be more exploratory in our use of cellphones, find small ways to use them at first and work at using them as one more tool in our arsenal. There are certainly occasions when they aren&#8217;t appropriate as with any tool but we can&#8217;t ignore them.</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt Paccio</title>
		<link>http://ideasandthoughts.org/2007/04/23/this-is-what-we-are-dealing-with/comment-page-1/#comment-26250</link>
		<dc:creator>Kurt Paccio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 12:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dean,

I, too, support the use of computing devices in the classroom. I&#039;m often challenged on examples of effective use of cell phones. Can you point to some examples of effective lessons involving cell phones? I&#039;ve seen the example in the &quot;Paying Attention&quot; video. Do you have others?

KP</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dean,</p>
<p>I, too, support the use of computing devices in the classroom. I&#8217;m often challenged on examples of effective use of cell phones. Can you point to some examples of effective lessons involving cell phones? I&#8217;ve seen the example in the &#8220;Paying Attention&#8221; video. Do you have others?</p>
<p>KP</p>
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		<title>By: Quentin DSouza</title>
		<link>http://ideasandthoughts.org/2007/04/23/this-is-what-we-are-dealing-with/comment-page-1/#comment-26248</link>
		<dc:creator>Quentin DSouza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 00:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For example see TSU - President Requests Cell Phone Policy: 

http://www.tsuoecta.org/highlights/agm07.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For example see TSU &#8211; President Requests Cell Phone Policy: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.tsuoecta.org/highlights/agm07.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.tsuoecta.org/highlights/agm07.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Quentin DSouza</title>
		<link>http://ideasandthoughts.org/2007/04/23/this-is-what-we-are-dealing-with/comment-page-1/#comment-26247</link>
		<dc:creator>Quentin DSouza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 23:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dean,

I work for the other school board in Toronto (Toronto Catholic District School Board 80,000+ students) and although we haven&#039;t made that cell phone ban yet there is pressure from Teacher Unions, Administrator Associations etc. to do this.  

Ban and Block is the traditional response to not understanding, where as I believe that we should Educate, Educate, Educate.  Yet, the more I work with educators in the classroom, the more I realize that my view is a very small minority than what I find in my social network.   

Call me on skype &quot;qdsouza&quot; if you want an earful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dean,</p>
<p>I work for the other school board in Toronto (Toronto Catholic District School Board 80,000+ students) and although we haven&#8217;t made that cell phone ban yet there is pressure from Teacher Unions, Administrator Associations etc. to do this.  </p>
<p>Ban and Block is the traditional response to not understanding, where as I believe that we should Educate, Educate, Educate.  Yet, the more I work with educators in the classroom, the more I realize that my view is a very small minority than what I find in my social network.   </p>
<p>Call me on skype &#8220;qdsouza&#8221; if you want an earful.</p>
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