Comments on: Why Privacy is Moot Point http://ideasandthoughts.org/2007/01/04/why-privacy-is-moot-point/ As an educational technologist, I am exploring ways to make learning more relevant, engaging and authentic. Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:43:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Ideas and Thoughts from an EdTech » Blog Archive » I’m a hypocrite http://ideasandthoughts.org/2007/01/04/why-privacy-is-moot-point/#comment-28877 Ideas and Thoughts from an EdTech » Blog Archive » I’m a hypocrite Mon, 17 Mar 2008 17:26:08 +0000 http://ideasandthoughts.org/2007/01/04/why-privacy-is-moot-point/#comment-28877 [...] generally see the internet as a public place. I’ve also said as Scott McNealy has, that privacy is dead. While I do realize there are more safer places to engage in private activity, in general [...] [...] generally see the internet as a public place. I’ve also said as Scott McNealy has, that privacy is dead. While I do realize there are more safer places to engage in private activity, in general [...]

]]> By: Order for Closure « Classroom Queen: Expanding the Realm of Technology http://ideasandthoughts.org/2007/01/04/why-privacy-is-moot-point/#comment-28860 Order for Closure « Classroom Queen: Expanding the Realm of Technology Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:49:02 +0000 http://ideasandthoughts.org/2007/01/04/why-privacy-is-moot-point/#comment-28860 [...] potential danger.I am also reminded of a blog post by Dean Shareski “Why Privacy is Moot Point” http://ideasandthoughts.org/2007/01/04/why-privacy-is-moot-point/ - Shareski points out that newspapers regularly publish children’s photos and names without [...] [...] potential danger.I am also reminded of a blog post by Dean Shareski “Why Privacy is Moot Point” http://ideasandthoughts.org/2007/01/04/why-privacy-is-moot-point/ - Shareski points out that newspapers regularly publish children’s photos and names without [...]

]]> By: Patrick http://ideasandthoughts.org/2007/01/04/why-privacy-is-moot-point/#comment-28083 Patrick Sun, 16 Dec 2007 03:13:50 +0000 http://ideasandthoughts.org/2007/01/04/why-privacy-is-moot-point/#comment-28083 Dean, Similar thoughts came to mind last week when the local weekly in the town where I work ran a photo of my 3-year-old son. The photographer who had taken the photo asked me for his name and I quickly gave it. No questions. However, when talking to a group of teachers about my family website, they were taken aback by the names and places I showed on the internet. "Don't you fear for their safety?" Of course I do, as does every parent. But we don't think for a minute about pictures in the newspaper being damaging, when they are far more likely than internet photos to do so. Dean,

Similar thoughts came to mind last week when the local weekly in the town where I work ran a photo of my 3-year-old son. The photographer who had taken the photo asked me for his name and I quickly gave it. No questions.

However, when talking to a group of teachers about my family website, they were taken aback by the names and places I showed on the internet. “Don’t you fear for their safety?”

Of course I do, as does every parent. But we don’t think for a minute about pictures in the newspaper being damaging, when they are far more likely than internet photos to do so.

]]> By: Kelly Christopherson http://ideasandthoughts.org/2007/01/04/why-privacy-is-moot-point/#comment-13477 Kelly Christopherson Sat, 06 Jan 2007 19:48:55 +0000 http://ideasandthoughts.org/2007/01/04/why-privacy-is-moot-point/#comment-13477 Dean, I completely agree with you on this issue. We spend so much energy worrying about the perpetrator who lives 100 or 1000 of miles away when we should be working at teaching our children to be safe on the net and safe in public. As a father with 4 girls, I'm more worried about the IMing than I am about web pages and pictures. We work at discussing what to do while in a city, how to avoid problems, how to avoid putting yourself in potentially bad situations and the other real life skills. At schools, we should be working on those technilcal literacies that will allow our children to be on the net and stay safe. With the advent of YouTube we need to work at work with students at discussing appropriate and inappropriate online behaviour. I get really confused by people who don't want anything to do with the internet through the school but will allow their child's picture in the paper, which goes online. As for information, google your name or use the 411 index - information is everywhere if someone wants it. I also agree with Stephen on his comment. As a principal, anything I say to anyone is for public record. Whatever I do will be interpretted, discussed and, eventually, get back to me. Some of us must realize that with the advent of phonecams, we can be "shot" any time and anywhere. So, we must continue to act accordingly. If you are worried that something you do will embarrass you, then you should probably figure out how to stop it. Really, a snapshot of a teacher sleeping in front of the class may embarrass the teacher but it puts the whole profession on notice. We are a profession. The movie <i>Teachers</i> has always been a favourite of mine because it really speaks about schools/learning and the whole big picture. It's kind of scary how that movie is still relevant today. Does he score? Kelly Dean,
I completely agree with you on this issue. We spend so much energy worrying about the perpetrator who lives 100 or 1000 of miles away when we should be working at teaching our children to be safe on the net and safe in public. As a father with 4 girls, I’m more worried about the IMing than I am about web pages and pictures. We work at discussing what to do while in a city, how to avoid problems, how to avoid putting yourself in potentially bad situations and the other real life skills. At schools, we should be working on those technilcal literacies that will allow our children to be on the net and stay safe. With the advent of YouTube we need to work at work with students at discussing appropriate and inappropriate online behaviour. I get really confused by people who don’t want anything to do with the internet through the school but will allow their child’s picture in the paper, which goes online. As for information, google your name or use the 411 index - information is everywhere if someone wants it. I also agree with Stephen on his comment. As a principal, anything I say to anyone is for public record. Whatever I do will be interpretted, discussed and, eventually, get back to me. Some of us must realize that with the advent of phonecams, we can be “shot” any time and anywhere. So, we must continue to act accordingly. If you are worried that something you do will embarrass you, then you should probably figure out how to stop it. Really, a snapshot of a teacher sleeping in front of the class may embarrass the teacher but it puts the whole profession on notice. We are a profession. The movie Teachers has always been a favourite of mine because it really speaks about schools/learning and the whole big picture. It’s kind of scary how that movie is still relevant today.
Does he score?
Kelly

]]> By: Dean Shareski http://ideasandthoughts.org/2007/01/04/why-privacy-is-moot-point/#comment-13368 Dean Shareski Fri, 05 Jan 2007 20:54:22 +0000 http://ideasandthoughts.org/2007/01/04/why-privacy-is-moot-point/#comment-13368 Maybe we should be focusing on protecting ourselves from the evils of the newspaper. That is a great point, it's way more likely that the sex offence will occur from within the same town/city than from pervert living thousands of miles away. Maybe we should be focusing on protecting ourselves from the evils of the newspaper.

That is a great point, it’s way more likely that the sex offence will occur from within the same town/city than from pervert living thousands of miles away.

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